tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post1947943143641491499..comments2024-03-05T23:31:44.106-08:00Comments on Gay Family Values: A House Divided...GFVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-30086973076670916592009-10-05T09:39:28.265-07:002009-10-05T09:39:28.265-07:00While I think marriage equality is not the highest...While I think marriage equality is not the highest priority on terms of rights, what really galls me is that via a referendum, people have the vote to take from others, a right that was bestowed by the state. To be frank, I never really thought about SSM until Prop 8. But I think when states start putting these propisitions on the ballots, both hetero and homosexuals have to stand up and say it's not right. Even if it's just a letter to the editor, at least it's a voice. Sorry if this became a bit of a rant...heatherfeatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794663459815619104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-46102001493603836462009-10-04T23:41:24.836-07:002009-10-04T23:41:24.836-07:00I wouldn't say that LGBT persons of color don&...I wouldn't say that LGBT persons of color don't care about the same issues that a white LGBT person does. The difference is a matter of priorities, which specific issues should we spend our money supporting and our time as activists. I would like to be able to meaningfully support all the important causes, but realistically that isn't feasible.<br /><br />Yes, marriage equality is an important issue (particularly for Prop8 since it was a right actively taken away from us), but given the choice it isn't something I would bring up to fight for. My priorities are different because of my culture and upbringing, and marriage isn't high on the list.<br /><br />My parents got married back when arranged marriages still happened. Seeing what their marriage is like makes me pretty negative about marriage as a whole. Of the LGBT Indian Americans that I know, most feel similarly. Obviously, that doesn't mean none of them want to get married or any of them feel marriage equality isn't worth fighting for. But it isn't a fight we would necessarily choose. Or rather, choose first over things we feel may be more important.<br /><br />But because the fight was started by our opponents and by members of our community for whom it is a priority, I can see why LGBT persons of color would say the gay activist community isn't for us. I think Mr. Keodara's reaction was overly dramatic and I don't agree with his actions, but I can see why he thinks as he does.<br /><br />I also want to stress that I'm only speaking for myself as an individual gay Indian American.Sameernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-26908014732080630732009-10-04T19:15:10.539-07:002009-10-04T19:15:10.539-07:00As an Asian man, I cannot relate to Mr. Keodara...As an Asian man, I cannot relate to Mr. Keodara's extreme views on racism within our community. I realize it exists, but for me it's never been an issue. The tone of his article seems to suggest that he does indeed have a chip on his shoulder. The two issues are apples and oranges anyway; it's ridiculous and irresponsible to withhold support for the community because he has a problem with a small part of it.DanOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13528629917826435962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-41090177313216402262009-10-04T09:03:30.213-07:002009-10-04T09:03:30.213-07:00Greets.
This internal dissent hits me from out of...Greets.<br /><br />This internal dissent hits me from out of nowhere. I suppose it's typical---in any cause there will always be factions---regardless of the issue, but I had thought OUR movement was less likely to experience it.<br /><br />Sounds to me like Mr. Keodara has forgotten that our opponents present a unified front against us and any fighting in our ranks aids them, not us. Once we have won our primary struggle, then we can focus on internal issues. Frankly, I've never seen discrimination like he describes---though I live in the South. hmmmm. Doesn't mean it's not happening, of course---just I've never seen it in all my years.<br /><br />I, too, agree, that minority GLBT people face a harsher reaction from their culture, their people. I've often wondered about it, how they deal with it, though I've never really discussed it. Looks like I've got more to learn than I thought.Geoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-87803196180110413452009-10-04T02:06:26.021-07:002009-10-04T02:06:26.021-07:00This is stupid. Yes, the African American members ...This is stupid. Yes, the African American members of the gay/lesbian community face greater hurdles, I agree, but they are still part of our community... and well welcome. Skin color means nothing to me, it's just part of who you are like your favorite food or color of your eyes. LGBT rights aren't an issue of color, and certainly not just a "white" issue.Tracy Lynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09092925684301262771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-33145786067584169422009-10-03T21:12:12.908-07:002009-10-03T21:12:12.908-07:00Thank you HeatherFeather. I agree with you on all ...Thank you HeatherFeather. I agree with you on all points. <br /><br />I don't mean to take away the fact that lgbt people of color DO have a harder road. They quite frankly do and theres no arguing the point.<br /><br />My issue is with looking at the fight for lgbt rights as a "white" issue. Those same rights affect all of us regardless of color. Also, I dont know why we can not support ALL efforts to advance the lgbtq cause. Fighting and throwing insults weakens us greatly.<br /><br />And one thing I have learned from observing law enforcement officers in San Francisco is how omnidirectional discrimination is. you can pick any group of people and there is someone they dont like.GFVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-92158888045381163432009-10-03T19:36:18.838-07:002009-10-03T19:36:18.838-07:00IMHO, I do think that African-American gays and le...IMHO, I do think that African-American gays and lesbians face a different hurdle than the white community. The black church and whole gangsta culture stigmatizes LGTs perhaps harsher than whites. The Wayen brothers-the homosexual movie critics on "In Living Color"? It may be wrong, but I have the feeling that being openly gay in the minority community is risker.<br /><br /> I've also heard some dissent on the Equality March because it'll shift focus from Maine and Washington's referendums and the repeal of DODT. That more people should be engaging the legislatures rather than marching.In a way, it's a bit like the civil rights struggle in the 60s, where everyone wanted equality for blacks but there were 2 different approaches,MLK and Malcom X.<br /><br />Personally, I think lobbying the legislatures AND marching can both be beneficial for LGT rights. A march increases visibility on the cause and even if the Congress and White House are out of town, the news coverage can keep it in the public eye.<br /><br />As for Will and Grace, did you know that John Barrowman, a gay British actor(Captain Jack on Doctor Who), tried out for the part of Will, but was rejected because the producers thought he was too straight? Stereotypes go both ways, I guess.heatherfeatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794663459815619104noreply@blogger.com