tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post4430317993007780029..comments2024-03-05T23:31:44.106-08:00Comments on Gay Family Values: Finding The Forest For The WeedsGFVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-66207122076444948522012-08-04T19:51:07.621-07:002012-08-04T19:51:07.621-07:00wow, You just take words from my mouth pertfect po...wow, You just take words from my mouth pertfect post...Mark Vinnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632307401842233985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-941503701001573102012-08-02T16:34:52.171-07:002012-08-02T16:34:52.171-07:00so, dave, i finally read your letter. i was a bit ...so, dave, i finally read your letter. i was a bit ambivalent there. i genuinely think its well done. <br /><br />i firmly believe that when the S.C.O.T.U.S. hears the gay marriage case, whichever it is, a significant portion of those marriage bans will be repealed, and some will be affirmed, though they are usually given time to come into compliance. <br /><br />whatever my opinions here is a link to some case law supported info.<br /><br />http://www.marriagelawfoundation.org/publications/Ave%20Maria%201.pdf<br /><br />it is 30 pages and i have not read all of it but the truth is marriage has been about more than procreation since time immemorial, there are property concerns and social order concerns..and more importantly it is in the states interest to support community building and marriage does that far more strongly than nearly any other institution. besides, those unalienable rights upon which our nation was founded includes our personal right, as i see it, to having socially legitimate relationships with the people with whom we choose - of many types; to accommodate this, recognition by the state, at minimum, is required, though it can be at different levels.steeldragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726804816418609288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-1409032388824121562012-07-31T14:59:04.244-07:002012-07-31T14:59:04.244-07:00Yes! :) My co-researcher interviewed him yesterday...Yes! :) My co-researcher interviewed him yesterday. The interview went really well. We're still looking for about 6 or 7 men to interview. So please email me if you know any!! <br />Thank you so much <br />Aly <br /><br />a.fiebrantz@ttu.eduAlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-41049889114445548532012-07-30T14:21:33.017-07:002012-07-30T14:21:33.017-07:00Actually, the damage has already been done on the ...Actually, the damage has already been done on the state level here in Nebraska. Somewhere between 5 and 10 years ago, an amendment was added to our state constitution outlawing any relationship recognition of any kind for us. Stopping at just marriage wasn't enough for those swine. And that amendment received a 67% "yes" vote--a real disgrace. Nebraska college football is huge here--almost like a cult--and, because of the passage of this amendment, I hope Nebraska loses every game it plays forever more. I hope for humiliating defeat after defeat, just so we can get our homophobic nads kicked so we squeel like hyenas on helium! :-D <br /><br />Yes, you're right. I SHOULD move out of this state.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-3046459601904856832012-07-30T14:06:10.398-07:002012-07-30T14:06:10.398-07:00In my final paragraph, I gave into my temper with ...In my final paragraph, I gave into my temper with them. They probably will dismiss me as irate, someone who's voting decision is already set in stone against this guy and I'm not expecting an answer.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-23289918458131324332012-07-30T13:35:10.415-07:002012-07-30T13:35:10.415-07:00Garry said Aly interviewed him yesterday for 2 hou...Garry said Aly interviewed him yesterday for 2 hours.... Whew..can't wait to hear about it....Jim Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12387924451130690320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-88276079362156691572012-07-30T13:24:29.145-07:002012-07-30T13:24:29.145-07:00What a great letter Dave ..it was beautifully writ...What a great letter Dave ..it was beautifully written. I wish more citizens would get involved with their elected officials-especially on the local level. Those people affect our lives..in a lot of ways more than the "higher ups!"Jim Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12387924451130690320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-71066006169494365202012-07-28T06:15:30.492-07:002012-07-28T06:15:30.492-07:00To each their own for there is far more to the con...To each their own for there is far more to the connections between any two people than thoughts I have in my little brain. It is never just about sex, though no one should be forced into denying it for the sake of social conformity. <br /><br />If the weeds are happy with their lives then let them be, whatever that means for them (so long as they are being responsible to the obligations they have chosen to live with). We tend to be jealous questioning animals which is fine when channeled into self success and not allowed to fester into hateful viciousness directed at others.<br /><br />I do question what harm they are setting themselves up for if a circumstance arises similar to Dennis Quade's character in far from heaven. I’m not saying they cannot have a fully committed emotional connection...but that would imply that your friends are somehow a lesser emotional commitment than your spouse rather than just different. Socially we have made the call that 'friend' is not as valuable but I personally reject that. <br /><br />Mr. Weed calling himself a 'gay man' implies to me that there is a need that based on pure biology his spouse cannot meet. Yes he has the right to ignore that need and he may be perfectly happy to do so- I’m not reading his heart to find out. This particular need is far greater than any lifestyle choice like any of the 'kink' or joining a camping organization or getting married or staying single, etc. we look for fulfilling emotional connection everywhere, more or less. While I can fully believe him and the Mrs. Care for one another I just don’t believe that it is as complete as it could be. <br /><br />Go love, be happy and share that joy and grow more happy for the world, I will not require you to be bound to my thoughts- my truths are not exactly the same as yours.steeldragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726804816418609288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-64659235061160376422012-07-27T19:26:33.105-07:002012-07-27T19:26:33.105-07:00I had to remove the last paragraph of my e-mail to...I had to remove the last paragraph of my e-mail to my congressman because my letter was longer than what the system here will allow me to post. So here now is that last paragraph:<br /><br />"Why does a conservative have such a blood lust for seeing to it that a devoted gay couple can’t visit each other in the hospital? What sadistic high does it give you to make one member of that union unable to make medical decisions for his incapacitated “husband” even when that husband views him as his next of kin and wants him to be able to make those decisions when he can’t make them for himself? Our your lives so empty that trying to ruin ours is the only way you can feel whole? You people need to mind your own business and leave us alone. And, no, you won’t be forced to watch any gay marriages because you are not welcome there!"Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-56788782612409718062012-07-27T19:23:11.101-07:002012-07-27T19:23:11.101-07:00I just received a letter from my Republican pro-li...I just received a letter from my Republican pro-life and presumably homophobic congressman. So I went to his website and pasted in a fiery e-mail to one of his volunteers asking what the congressman's position on marriage equality is. For your benefit, I'm pasting in what I said.<br /><br />"What is Lee Terry’s position on marriage equality? As an Independent voter and a gay man, I am EXTREMELY wary of voting Republican when we are in an era where the bulk of the Republican party at the Presidential, Congressional and Senatorial level and the religious right are, for all practical purposes, one and the same. Some bigots may think that gay people deserve no rights being themselves because their orientation is a choice—something to change at will like the rest of you alternate flavors at Baskin Robbins—and they can just be straight at will and marry an opposite-sex partner. The anecdotal and scientific evidence are quite to the contrary. Admitted as an exhibit in the Golinski case challenging DOMA was a study where 93-94% of self-identifying gay men and 87% of gay women reported little or no choice in their orientation. As for the science, addressing gay biology for males, a 2008 National Geographic documentary showed that, whereas roughly 5% of the general population is gay, there is a 25% probability and a 50% probability respectively that a given male child will be gay if his fraternal or identical twin is gay. The pronounced disparity in probabilities among fraternal and identical twins versus the general population alone powerfully points a genetic or biological cause. While a specific gay gene has yet to be found, scientists do feel they’ve discovered the mechanism which causes gay orientation. Testosterone released in utero normally masculinizes both the body and the brain, particularly the hypothalamus, which scientists believe is the primary structure that controls what we are attracted to. If, either by insufficient amounts of testosterone circulating in the fetus or something preventing absorption by the brain, the hypothalamus didn’t absorb enough of that hormone to direct it toward its more customary “straight settings,” the resulting child WILL be gay.<br /><br />Here’s a YouTube video of the relevant part of that documentary:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saO_RFWWVVA <br /><br />Just as gay orientation has been shown to be biologically determined, the same holds true for straight orientation. And this means that all the cultural influences that conservatives are so deathly afraid of their kids being exposed to for fear it will turn them gay in fact DON’T MATTER. A biologically-made straight child will remain so no matter what they’re exposed to on TV, the Internet or out in society. And, likewise, a gay person can’t change his orientation either. He can’t pray it away any more than he can pray his eye or skin color away.<br /><br />Marriage equality is about CIVIL rights, NOT religious privileges. It’s only about the freedom of anyone to get a marriage license at CITY HALL, NOT SOME CHURCH in order that he may legally join his life with the one he loves, be that a woman or man. No church or individual with religious objections to marriage equality is forced to perform the ceremony. So why the fuss? Adam and Steve, who live down the street and got their marriage license at City Hall, aren’t going to hurt your marriage by so doing. It’s your job and that of your spouse’s to ruin your own marriage. And, until such time as the law compels you to divorce your opposite-sex spouse and remarry a same-sex one, you have no business claiming that “gay marriage” is something being forced on you because that is simply a lie. If “gay marriage” isn’t for you, then don’t get one. Simple.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-40860987080588328292012-07-25T21:28:04.009-07:002012-07-25T21:28:04.009-07:00i tend to hang out with fringe people so i dont ge...i tend to hang out with fringe people so i dont get much on a daily basis. we also tend to be very focused on doing what we ourselves need to do here. its about even, cause 'them pagans have drunken orgies where satan rules absolutely and they have sex with men, women, animals, fruits/veg, children and black people, they is homosex'lls'<br />in some ways it is very tolerant individually but-within my generation...you also have to make it where the straight people can have their illusions of normal, which is retarded.steeldragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726804816418609288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-80851236439550024602012-07-25T19:12:56.151-07:002012-07-25T19:12:56.151-07:00Do you get more static from people in Texas for be...Do you get more static from people in Texas for being gay or pagan? We might end up talking about this more by phone later this week, but others here might be interested to hear your answer.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-34136286546587580002012-07-25T17:04:39.654-07:002012-07-25T17:04:39.654-07:00i knew for about five seconds but i dont recall no...i knew for about five seconds but i dont recall now. my bfam asked his niece when her and her (female) fiance were gonna come up so he could marry them. nh has at minimum that not marriage thing-civil unions?- my brain is off a bit i need a nap.<br />i want to go somewhere else and do my masters degree. i will leave here for a more gay/pagan friendly location. i shouldn't have to though, not on those fronts.steeldragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726804816418609288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-18889222968765517942012-07-25T11:17:51.259-07:002012-07-25T11:17:51.259-07:00Bryan,
I may be guilty of an "oops." T...Bryan,<br /><br />I may be guilty of an "oops." The map and information is still there, but it's laid out at the bottom of a long page. It still is weird to have it way down so low. Many people might not scroll all the way to the bottom to find it.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-47144806207469199312012-07-25T06:22:11.162-07:002012-07-25T06:22:11.162-07:00Bryan,
There is a problem on the Marriage Equalit...Bryan,<br /><br />There is a problem on the Marriage Equality link on the gayfamilyvalues website. The marriage equality map just briefly flashes for a second or two and then disappears. Somebody really does need to get that fixed.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-7973087311243536422012-07-25T06:16:36.609-07:002012-07-25T06:16:36.609-07:00Yeah, it would be great if move out of the theocra...Yeah, it would be great if move out of the theocratic South. You and I have talked about this through e-mail before. I think your long-term happiness depends on it. The more miles you can put between you and those vile, vicious homophobes down there, the better. I think New Hampshire might have marriage equality too but I’m not sure.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-56627750999694790692012-07-24T23:56:43.857-07:002012-07-24T23:56:43.857-07:00so the captcha just told me to 'rol a tit'...so the captcha just told me to 'rol a tit'...im not really sure how to do that, mine dont twist like that and i am certainly NOT doing that to mom....ummm. . . .uh...no? ty?steeldragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726804816418609288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-41152875729145632582012-07-24T23:51:08.378-07:002012-07-24T23:51:08.378-07:00my brotha-from-anotha-motha (his wife is black and...my brotha-from-anotha-motha (his wife is black and went to mamaronek) has been trying to get me to go to NH for awhile and i have a place to stay till i get settled if i move up there, with a friend. i would love to go. alas i is a broke person trying to pay off bills, many of which are not really my own..damn the care-giving industry. it shall occur that i go and i will let you know when im in the area.steeldragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726804816418609288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-71079856458750569292012-07-24T22:36:38.713-07:002012-07-24T22:36:38.713-07:00I hope he has fun and good luck. American bears a...I hope he has fun and good luck. American bears at least would find his Irish accent sexy. :-)Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-57721095802291539282012-07-24T22:26:56.724-07:002012-07-24T22:26:56.724-07:00Thanks Dave-I'll pass on the info. I know he ...Thanks Dave-I'll pass on the info. I know he has Scruff because he was getting "growled at" tons of times in Cleveland and Toronto!! :0Jim Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12387924451130690320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-17577635011060759372012-07-24T21:15:18.926-07:002012-07-24T21:15:18.926-07:00Jim,
I could be making unfounded assumptions here...Jim,<br /><br />I could be making unfounded assumptions here, but I’m presuming Paul likes bears because that seems to be what most bears are attracted to. If that’s true for Paul, have him check out:<br /><br />www.bearcentral.com Headquartered in San Francisco but has a global membership. Good for blog-related socializing and also functions as a bear community dating website.<br /><br />www.scruffapp.com Has a bear dating app for iPhones and Android. Used globally.<br /><br />Also have him watch this video from the Jonathan Robinson YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvv1ZWsycNw&feature=plcp on Scruff <br /><br />Just as Jay and Bryan have said in a past Ask A Gay Family video, gay dating websites need to be used carefully meaning be very clear in your profile what you’re looking for. If Paul wants to build something deep and long lasting with someone, he will need to say so in some way or the contacts he’ll get will tend to be for just quick hook ups.<br /><br />There also is a bear related comedy mini-series on the web scheduled to start August 1st called “Where The Bears Are.” A funny murder mystery kind of thing with hot, furry men. Go to http://wherethebearsare.tv/ . For now, there are a couple of videos to watch, including a series trailer.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-48637396301717447112012-07-24T16:05:42.312-07:002012-07-24T16:05:42.312-07:00Is he really? Sounds like he has more coming out ...Is he really? Sounds like he has more coming out experience than I do and presumably the people he cares the most about have his back. He also can use my 3-prong coming out / bigot intervention strategy that I’ve repeated so much I should be either horse or a carpal tunnel basket case. It also should help that he’s a manly-looking dude. He hardly has the problem of looking so fabulous that he farts estrogen! :-D :-D With anyone new he feels he needs to come out to them, he can always point out that the only thing making them any different from him is a more favorable birth outcome. If he’s dealing with an irretrievable bigoted toxic prick, maybe he should be doing the walking away from them rather than the other way around. Having people like that in his life is about as useful as having a knife in the back. In fact, they’re strikingly similar. I still think he would be much happier in a larger, more urban environment. City people tend to be more socially progressive than more rural folk.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-8089624771367021002012-07-24T13:14:11.054-07:002012-07-24T13:14:11.054-07:00Thank you al so much! I have posted and gotten int...Thank you al so much! I have posted and gotten into contact with the person in charge of the OutLateButGreat channel. She is going to encourage people to contact me. I have already gotten two women for my 2nd study. Hopefully I hear from some more people. I can't say how thankful I am that y'all are willing to talk to me about this. <br />And if you've lost my e-mail it's a.fiebrantz@ttu.edu. <br /><br />Thanks Again! <br />AlyAlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-65519261183675255972012-07-24T11:22:07.289-07:002012-07-24T11:22:07.289-07:00Dave we are working on Paul. He is extremely fear...Dave we are working on Paul. He is extremely fearful of being out yet he is out to friends and family. His little Irish town does actually have a gay bar and there is a support group there as well. I keep telling him that "Prince Charming is not going to come knocking on your door.." You need to let go of fear and put yourself out there. He is getting to that point..Jim Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12387924451130690320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-3588399514743663942012-07-24T10:44:49.982-07:002012-07-24T10:44:49.982-07:00Well, I hope for Paul's sake his great night w...Well, I hope for Paul's sake his great night with mates had a "multidimensional" quality to it! :-D Perhaps his version of my Kansas City experience.:-) Say, I know how lonely Paul is in the part of Ireland he lives in. I don't know what England's immigration policy is toward Irelanders, but Manchester evidently has a thriving bear scene there. Paul could be so much happier and have vastly more dating options if only he'd move to Manchester.Dave, the Originalnoreply@blogger.com