tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post7494277989163781922..comments2024-03-05T23:31:44.106-08:00Comments on Gay Family Values: Calling Prejudice To the StandGFVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-19987327329506872342010-01-23T20:41:26.132-08:002010-01-23T20:41:26.132-08:00Thanks for the reply, it was pretty awEsome (sorry...Thanks for the reply, it was pretty awEsome (sorry, I shouldn't have brought it up in the first place) to hear from you. I guess all I can do is hope for this trial to go differently. I'll keep my fingers crossed. <br /><br />Take care,<br />JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-53469500180659137732010-01-22T12:46:12.146-08:002010-01-22T12:46:12.146-08:00How is reversal therapy (or conversion/reparative)...How is reversal therapy (or conversion/reparative) therapy any different than the "gay agenda", in which they are supposedly trying to assimilate people and turn them gay?<br /><br />Is this not an attempt at heteros turning gays hetero, thus spreading the hetero agenda?<br /><br />So, first, even though 95% of all pedophiles are hetero, and many clergy are amongst the list of pedophiles, we blame the gays for pedophilia.<br /><br />Now, when absolutely no gay has ever tried to convert anybody, and we have groups like "Focus on the Family" trying to convert gay people into heteros, then, again, we blame the gays for an assimilation agenda?ladybugmagichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10038899085890000219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-14281718083718774662010-01-21T22:13:07.710-08:002010-01-21T22:13:07.710-08:00As for whether or not we will when this case is an...As for whether or not we will when this case is anybodies guess....While Olsen-and Boies have made an awsomE case, I have seen too many elections that we "assumed" would win...go down in flaming defeat.GFVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-37597704639517903482010-01-21T22:10:24.593-08:002010-01-21T22:10:24.593-08:00I think that there are two big reasons why you don...I think that there are two big reasons why you don't see alot of detailed coverage in the blogosphere.<br /><br />1) The courage campaign and others have done such a fine job of reporting that to add anything to what they have done is nigh impossible. After all...they are in the courtroom when the rest of us couldn't get in even if we bribed the bailif. <br /><br />However...there have been many blogs doing an awsome job of keeping us informed and I link their twitter feeds and liveblog sessions everymorning. Whithout them, we would have nothing.<br /><br />2) As for 365gay and the like I would seriously look at who owns them. Corporate conglomerates have a long history of burying our news...365 being owned by CBS?...and then who owns them?<br /><br />I just watched "Outrage" which has a great deal to do with my attitude tonight(I'm pissed!)...and it has thoroughly lived up to its title....I intend to write about what I saw in tomorrow post.GFVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-48603496382553713942010-01-21T21:22:07.299-08:002010-01-21T21:22:07.299-08:00Jay, Bryan great reporting. I also have seen this ...Jay, Bryan great reporting. I also have seen this not being posted on the blogs as much, even on 365gay.... It is as if we either dont want equality, or we are so tired, kicked around, and miserable we dont even care anymore. If you want my honest opinion I think they are thinking what a majority of us LGBT have come to accept. Which is... despite mountains of scientific evidence, tons of clergy that support us, extremely touching logical and emotional appeals, because of a few extremely wealthy and privileged religious groups we will never achieve equal rights, maybe somewhat equal, but never full equal rights. <br /><br />While i know this aspiration is entirely false... it does seem true with these times of dire tribulation and oppression. Either way... I say we have a better chance flipping a one sided coin with heads, and calling heads for losing the case, and hoping it lands and stays vertically on its side. <br /><br />Let us just hope the elasticity of the metal in this two headed coin gives it enough bounce to land on its side, even for a while before the USSC strips us of our marriage rights in appeal.Chris Marshallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-30910123578725508162010-01-21T21:11:28.577-08:002010-01-21T21:11:28.577-08:00Thank you for your post fallowing and updating on ...Thank you for your post fallowing and updating on the prop 8 trial. It has made is so helpful to be able to keep abreast with what is going on!aNorthWestViewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598507140332496283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-34122654060888222382010-01-21T20:26:26.322-08:002010-01-21T20:26:26.322-08:00This is excellent. Thank you for the news. They ...This is excellent. Thank you for the news. They are articulating a lot of the issues that I am not aware of or don't have the cogency to quite put together in an organized way even if I am aware those issues are going on. Besides being great for political reasons, hearing these things is great for general education including my own about the issues.u3q2vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15845017823913752380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-84825303522028099892010-01-21T19:39:12.737-08:002010-01-21T19:39:12.737-08:00Bryan, I think, as you have expressed, this public...Bryan, I think, as you have expressed, this public trial with all the information so many people have wanted to deny for so long, and still do, this trial has a lot of healing potential. Being heard for the first time in your life really, all the pain and suffering denied, ridiculed, deliberately hidden, mocked, leid about etc, is incredibly freeing it finally gets out there for everyone to be possibly heard and know about. I myself sat here cry at times while reading how bad it was in US and still is, but that history of gay violence, discrimination and sheer religious hatred blew me away. Many things I read did. Im so happy for you Americans to have this trial and finally a great opportunity to be heard and where the many lies youve been victim of are being refuted, one by one. And its real good evidence to use against any future lies about homosexuals, or next props coming up. And Olson and Boies are so very good, they are the best. And the evidence now of all these religious groups and even NOM all being connected, wow! I still dont dare to think you could win, but it all looks so very good, I would be stunned if not. I saw on various blogs people find this trial very healing, I hope that continues. Summer xSummerwenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11739437254497851960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-84544589585547838072010-01-21T18:37:28.083-08:002010-01-21T18:37:28.083-08:00Thank you so much for this post and the link; I...Thank you so much for this post and the link; I've unfortunately heard only a couple things about it thus far, and it was great finally hearing a little more about the trial. <br /><br />Since you obviously know more about the trial as a whole than I do, I was hoping to ask you if you think that things look favorable of unfavorable for us at this point. <br /><br />Oh, and just so you know, awesome has an "e" in it. Sorry if I sound pedantic haha, I don't mean to....<br /><br />And finally, I want to say that you and Jay are personal heroes of mine, with all your videos (I'm not ashamed to say that watching the video of your dance at your wedding made cry a little. It was really touching) and how you are actively doing something to make a difference. You guys are amazing!! Thanks for everything you've done!<br /><br /><br />JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-30734261876755156132010-01-21T14:52:12.540-08:002010-01-21T14:52:12.540-08:00Silly me, I realized it as soon as I clicked the l...Silly me, I realized it as soon as I clicked the link to the twitter feed.<br /><br />Anyway, thank you so much for posting this. It's not recieving any press coverage whatsoever here (understandable though) so I wouldn't know this is happening otherwise. It's kind of scary because it could lead to either gay marriage being legal nationwide (which would have huge repercussions around the world), or gay marriage being ILLEGAL nationwide...which would be very very serious. I mean, since there's a good chance I study in the US, this could have a huge effect on my future. *bites nails*<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-11970983437865471072010-01-21T13:41:26.556-08:002010-01-21T13:41:26.556-08:00Wow.. I go to lunch for a minute and all hell brea...Wow.. I go to lunch for a minute and all hell breaks lose...<br /><br />I would love to be there in person but with the kids and Jays work schedules thats pretty much impossible. I'm watching online just like all of you. ..Plus, I'm pretty sure that the courtroom is so packed you couldn't squeeze another living thing in there.<br /><br />@Matt<br /><br />The tearfull part within the text is the Livebloggers commentary. I tried to leave text intact as much as possible, which meant not removing it.<br /><br />The portion outside the blockquoted section is mine ----->"...And a powerfull story it was Ryan. I wiped tears from my eyes the first time I read it."<br /><br />BryanGFVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-66855999609938689732010-01-21T13:19:53.060-08:002010-01-21T13:19:53.060-08:00@Matt
I imagine it was not Bryan's commentary ...@Matt<br />I imagine it was not Bryan's commentary about tears, it was the liveblogger's from Courage Campaign.<br /><br />@Tavdy<br />Bryan lives in Santa Rosa, if I'm not mistaken, which is 55 miles north from San Francisco.<br />Even if he lived in SF, he has a family with two kids, I imagine he has his hands full with everything to sit in the courtroom every day 8 hours a day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-11228195776399243822010-01-21T13:17:26.636-08:002010-01-21T13:17:26.636-08:00Well he's got two kids, I'm sure he has lo...Well he's got two kids, I'm sure he has lots to do.<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-6292631420929302412010-01-21T13:05:35.721-08:002010-01-21T13:05:35.721-08:00Anon, the court case is being heart in San Francis...Anon, the court case is being heart in San Francisco, and Bryan lives in Sonoma County, about 20-30 miles north at a guess, so he's probably in the highly-enviable position of being there in person to watch the proceedings.<br /><br />Correct me if I'm wrong, Bryan - but I can't imagine you not being there if you had the opportunity!Tavdyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10109151555493408645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-90064887386873313902010-01-21T12:20:49.725-08:002010-01-21T12:20:49.725-08:00is there a link to the video? since you said the ...is there a link to the video? since you said the "way he said it" made you tearful.<br /><br />Sorry if you put it somewhere, but I just read the first few lines LOL, I wanted to post this quick since you just got it up so you could see it soon.<br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com