tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post1352398738593275954..comments2024-03-05T23:31:44.106-08:00Comments on Gay Family Values: Why Is MSNBC Still Hosting The Family Research Council?GFVhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02950236433262366445noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-38533766854518777072012-03-29T11:17:23.209-07:002012-03-29T11:17:23.209-07:00Great points...really nice insight, Bryan! I repe...Great points...really nice insight, Bryan! I repeatedly ask myself the same questions every single time I see Tony Perkins (and the usual suspects, e.g. Concerned Women of America or many groups that SOUND wholesome) on MSNBC, a network I usually appreciate over the others. I recently saw Anderson Cooper interviewing good ol' T.P. (the initials are fitting, I think) on CNN, and I thought...Wow, I wonder what Anderson is really thinking (!!!)...it would be hard for me to remain calm and collected if he were sitting across the table from me, especially when I think of all the kids who have killed themselves. Ugh, disgusting. On that happy note... :P<br /><br />Hope I get to meet you guys this year...if not this year, likely next year, because I think I may be moving to San Francisco in January 2013!<br /><br />-Matt in NYCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-85871474625740584862012-03-12T11:55:10.861-07:002012-03-12T11:55:10.861-07:00In the post Bryan never states that he thinks this...In the post Bryan never states that he thinks this falls outside freedom of speech. The goal is to draw attention to bad behavior by a private corporation, MSNBC, and in doing so hopefully create public pressure to keep FRC and Tony Perkins from being included in mainstream debates. I would also emphasize that under a standard freedom of speech analysis much of what FRC publicly states is skirting the limits of protected speech. The freedom is not limitless; it can be reasonably restricted in time, place, and manner for the promotion or protection of the public good. Thus, speech that incites violence is not protected and this is the origin of the "hate speech" notion. When a corporation provides a public venue to a man who represents an organization that comes very close to engaging in hate speech, the group targeted by that speech should take notice and attempt to apply pressure to change such practices. As you said, it's called freedom of speech. [On a side note, I'm curious why SPLC is a joke?]Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-45705785916421330092012-03-11T23:33:26.557-07:002012-03-11T23:33:26.557-07:00It's a TV formula, unfortunately. MSNBC is aw...It's a TV formula, unfortunately. MSNBC is aware that their audience is, generally, sympathetic to glbt issues. Building off this fact, several years ago, its programmers decided to "build" much of their shows within a framework that will create good guys and bad guys: debates in which you know for whom to cheer and toward whom to "boo." Scheduling FRC as the opposition debaters is intended to make the news of the day entertaining and more "black and white." Their formula is actually condescending to viewers who prefer to see topics fully debated, not mock debated. Most news programs do this to some extent these days as they play to their desired demographics; however, I am noticing that the trend is lessening somewhat as more viewers realize that this is an entertainment "technique," and not good journalism. I would very much like to see MSNBC, CNN, Fox, and all the rest selecting the most knowledegable voices from all sides of a topic, rather than those voices that deliver sports-like emotion. FRC stirs emotions but no longer has anything legitimate to lend to the debates. In this case, the "entertainment" comes at the expense of real lives. This is one of the reasons I do not consider MSNBC a friend to the glbt community; rather, they are condescending to it ... much like our political "leaders," but that's another story.Wade Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-50881052888925412572012-03-11T15:11:02.811-07:002012-03-11T15:11:02.811-07:00Hey Bryan, after having read this blog post my blo...Hey Bryan, after having read this blog post my blood was boiling! I found Perkins quote about gay kids killing themselves 'because they know it's abnormal' to be extremely disquieting and offensive. My thoughts turn to Jamie Rodemeyer. Jamie did not kill himself because of conflict regarding his sexual orientation; he couldn't tolerate one more day of bullying from fellow pupils. I've heard people say Jamie was bullied because he was gay which is not true. Jamie was bullied because the perpertrators lack moral fibre, have been poorly parented and are homophobic - taught by people like Tony Perkins. It astonishes me that Perkins would trivialise suicide amongst young LGBT people with such overt judgement. More specifically, his lack of compassion for other human beings is really quite disturbing. Ultimately, he is the cause of a great deal of suffering, engaging in the very behaviour which damages society that he accuses LGBT people of. Hypocrite.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07321645906716993870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-79479208092335831232012-03-10T20:03:02.825-08:002012-03-10T20:03:02.825-08:00Anonymous #1, but can MSNBC viewers really see thr...Anonymous #1, but can MSNBC viewers really see through him when they haven’t heard these very revealing quotes Bryan provided? I think Bryan is trying to suggest here that they cannot. The whole subject matter seems more like the kind of thing you’d expect to see on the “GOP Jesus Talk Radio TV Network” aka Fox News. A great holy man like Perkins belongs over there anyway; he has an adoring flock of fellow haters there ready to send out their children as their proxies to schools everywhere to bully gay kids and induce the next wave of gay suicides. Wait a minute…what am I saying? The “next” wave? They’re still not done with the current wave. Oops…I forgot…. Sorry….<br /><br />Any time you need some scorching sarcasm thrown at our "friends" over there, you can always come to me. Consider me your go-to guy for that.Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-57915690995939240192012-03-10T19:53:35.888-08:002012-03-10T19:53:35.888-08:00This is a powerful blog; thank you for your contri...This is a powerful blog; thank you for your contribution.<br /><br />B.L.Fowler, AuthorB.L.Fowlerhttp://matthew2229.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-4733850068251548932012-03-10T19:40:11.965-08:002012-03-10T19:40:11.965-08:00Southern Poverty Law Center is a joke and MSNBC ca...Southern Poverty Law Center is a joke and MSNBC can but anyone that they want on...it is called freedom of speechAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-587902609826926070.post-68168898224428425222012-03-10T17:39:25.558-08:002012-03-10T17:39:25.558-08:00I am glad they put fools like him on... he is a si...I am glad they put fools like him on... he is a simple-minded bigot who most MSNBC viewers can easily see through. It helps to demonstrate to some ambivalent people that there really are people out there who want to oppress us and that these issues are still relevant and important.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com